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Are we all living in The Matrix? Neil deGrasse Tyson sits down with actor Laurence Fishburne to explore the science of The Matrix, simulation theory, and who has the better deep voice. Would you take the red pill?
Would you rather have truth or normalcy? We explore the choice Morpheus presents Neo and how it pertains to science. Laurence shares the experience of bringing Morpheus to life. He and Neil unpack the film’s profound symbolism as well as discuss the blending of ancient mythology with the emerging digital age.
We analyze the plausibility of the movie’s central premise. Can humans really serve as batteries for machines? We explore simulation theory, pondering whether our universe could be one of many nested simulations, as posed by Oxford philosopher Nick Bostrom. From the optical science behind the iconic spoon-bending scene to the film’s intricate religion and philosophy, we explore the storytelling elements that make The Matrix timeless.
Neil connects its themes to questions about reality, truth, and human potential. Plus, a few surprises—including the “deep voice-off” and musings on why gods always have baritone voices—make this episode a must-listen for movie buffs and science enthusiasts alike.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction: Laurence Fishburne
1:45 - Laurence’s Scientific Filmography
10:00 - The Deepest Voice
14:21 - THE MATRIX (Spoiler Alert)
19:00 - Religion & Mythology in The Matrix
32:05 - The Spoon & Optics
33:29 - Smart People in Movies
35:50 - Would You Take the Red Pill?
37:00 - Using Humans As Batteries
41:55 - Simulation Theory
46:40 - Living in the Matrix
49:20 - Talking Shakespeare
55:12 - How Neil and Laurence Met
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