Theist caller Anthony from New York shares personal experiences he believes are supernatural, including visions of light and angelic figures, some allegedly witnessed by family members. Host Matt Dillahunty attempts to engage Anthony in a critical discussion about how he determined these experiences were supernatural. The conversation becomes increasingly contentious as Anthony repeatedly uses logical fallacies and fails to directly answer Matt's questions. Matt grows frustrated with Anthony's inability to provide non-fallacious arguments and his admission that he won't change his beliefs regardless of the conversation.
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