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00:00 Welcome and introductions
01:13 Jack personally thanks both Don & Bernardo
04:32 When have you two last spoken?
05:54 What are your hobbies?
06:18 Bernardo shares his passion for computer engineering @ http://youtube.com/@TheByteAttic
06:47 Bernardo shows us his Q1 computer
08:03 Don mentions his amateur photography hobby @ http://flickr.com/photos/DonHoffman
10:04 Are you working on any new things?
10:25 Don talks about his latest paper on how spacetime arises as a projection of the dynamics of consciousness
21:50 Bernardo shares a story about a discussion he had with Eric Cavalcanti
25:09 Bernardo mentions being committed to writing two new books
26:00 What was your reaction to the 2022 Nobel prize in physics?
34:12 Can both of you explain each other's theory in your own words?
34:38 Bernardo briefly explains Don's conscious realism theory in his own words
35:13 Don briefly explains Bernardo's work in his own words
36:26 Bernardo elaborates on his only problem with conscious realism—unification—and proposes a solution
38:52 Don unpacks his own solution to this unification-problem
42:59 Bernardo asks Don if the operation that does the combination of qualia is reversible
45:17 How can each of you improve each others work?
46:41 Could you mathematically model dissociation?
46:56 Bernardo discusses why a mathematically precise model of dissociation would be very difficult
49:04 Don proposes a possible way of mathematically describing dissociation
52:50 What are your thoughts on simulation theory?
55:40 Don explains why he doesn’t believe that physical computers could simulate consciousness
1:03:34 Bernardo explains why he isn't a fan of simulation theory
1:07:28 Why am I me and not you?
1:08:58 Don explains that if [physical realists] had a theory to how brains led to consciousness, then they’d have an answer to why I am me
1:10:46 Bernardo sympathises with the questioner and acknowledges the mystery of “Why am I me?”
1:17:06 Don, is the harmony principle reflected in your theory?
1:18:55 Don clears up the misunderstanding in the question that Bernardo is a top-down thinker, and adds that he agrees with Bernardo’s bottom-up approach
1:19:42 Bernardo's cat Floki makes an appearance (and @ 1:20:17, 1:21:07 & 1:22:25)
1:23:13 Bernardo agrees with Don, and explores the question of “What qualifies as a proper object?”, and why living beings might be the only non-nominal objects
1:29:45 Bernardo adds why he doesn’t believe in the combinations of consciousnesses could combine into a larger one
1:30:53 Don, do you also feel that there is a renewed interest in the topic of consciousness?
1:34:49 Bernardo confirms Jack’s suspicions and speculates on why consciousness is becoming a serious topic again
1:39:39 Bernardo, when it comes to idealism, how do you view Don's usage of mathematical models?
1:45:51 Don stresses the importance of Bernardo’s careful conceptual analyses, and adds why there can’t be a theory of everything
1:49:20 Bernardo confesses his admiration of super-symmetry when he was 23 years old
1:50:35 Bernardo, does consciousness "evolve"?
1:53:24 Don explains that the appearance of evolution is an artefact of the projection of an underlying consciousness that is non-evolving
1:58:12 Bernardo points at the common contradiction in thinking that whatever is outside time must be static
2:01:57 What's your advice to physicalists saying "I'll believe it when I can measure it"?
2:05:16 Don argues why measurements—done very carefully—will force physicalists to let go of spacetime being fundamental
02:06:22 Thank you and good night