The caller Shannon questions how atheists determine what is true. The host Matt Dillahunty explain skeptics rely on scientific methods as the most reliable way to model reality. Shannon shares his own belief in the Christian God based on observing creation and her view that "nothing produces something."
The Hosts points out Shannon's logic is flawed since his Christian worldview includes the idea that God created something from nothing, yet she argues nothing can create something. As they ask questions about his reasoning, Shannon struggles to provide direct answers.
Matt tries to get Shannon to recognize that the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. He uses an analogy about finding a dead body and wrongly accusing the butler of the murder. Shannon admits "the best explanation I can think of right now" is not a good enough reason on its own to believe something is true.
Yet Shannon maintains his belief in God is rational since it's simply the "best explanation available to her right now. The hosts explains that is not a reliable path to truth, and urges Shannon to reconsider his inconsistent epistemology. Shannon insists he will go wherever the evidence leads.
Matt stresses that he should withhold belief until he has sufficient evidence, not just wait for her beliefs to be disproven by someone else. However, Shannon continues relying on "best explanation I have" logic despite Matt methodically explaining its flaws. He refuses to acknowledge the burden of proof problem. The call ends unresolved.
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