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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
03:21 - How many criminals has he met?
06:04 - His phone call with Dawood Ibrahim
09:20 - Talking about the 1993 Mumbai bl*sts
14:54 - Why the government rejected Dawood’s surrender
19:10 - Dawood vs. the Pathan gang
29:44 - How Dawood’s brother was k*lled
34:39 - When and why politicians started supporting him
36:17 - Why and how he fled India
41:11 - Is Dawood still alive?
44:11 - Dawood: The King of Pakistan
48:36 - Dawood in Mumbai vs. Dubai vs. Karachi
1:00:17 - Dawood Ibrahim’s sources of income
1:03:11 - The Gold King
1:05:01 - Chhota Rajan vs. Dawood
1:08:09 - Dawood’s mentor
1:15:13 - Can anyone become a gangster that big today?
1:17:13 - The Gulshan Kumar case
1:21:30 - Has he ever been threatened?
1:27:03 - His views on Lawrence Bishnoi
1:29:41 - Common psychological traits in criminals
1:31:25 - End of the podcast
1:31:30 - BTS
1:32:14 - Outro
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In today’s episode, we have Hussain Zaidi, India’s top investigative journalist and crime writer, who has closely studied and reported on the underworld. Zaidi shares how Dawood started as a small-time gangster in Mumbai, how political backing helped him rise, and how he moved from Mumbai to Dubai and eventually to Pakistan.
We also discuss Dawood’s massive empire from controlling Pakistan’s gold market to his influence in Bollywood, cricket, and even the gutka industry. Plus, we dive into the mystery behind Gulshan Kumar’s assassination and whether the underworld still operates today.
Towards the end, Zaidi talks about receiving threats, his views on Lawrence Bishnoi, and how investigative journalism uncovers the hidden truths of crime and politics. This is an explosive episode on power, crime, and the underworld’s deep connections. Don’t miss it!
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