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First Cars, Now Planes: Is The Future of Flying Electric? Ep194: Anders Forslund

Cleaning Up Podcast 3,981 3 days ago
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Aviation accounts for around 2-3% of global emissions, and is showing no sign of decreasing. There has been a lot of focus on replacement fuels, but no real paradigm shift in the industry. Anders Forslund has a plan to change that. Anders is the CEO of Heart Aerospace, the Swedish airplane developers who've recently established an R&D facility in California to develop their 30 seater hybrid-electric plane. Later this year, their all-electric prototype will take to the skies in its first test flight. While there are a number of companies innovating in the aerospace sector, including Joby Aviation, featured in Episode 156 of Cleaning Up, Heart is targeting larger planes and longer routes. They already have orders to buy hundreds of planes, most notably from United Airlines, and have received early investment from Bill Gates' Breakthrough Energy Ventures. This episode was recorded at the Heart Aerospace facilities in El Sugundo, Los Angeles. Leadership Circle: Cleaning Up is supported by the Leadership Circle, and its founding members: Actis, Alcazar Energy, EcoPragma Capital, EDP of Portugal, Eurelectric, the Gilardini Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy, Quadrature Climate Foundation, SDCL and Wärtsilä. For more information on the Leadership Circle, please visit https://www.cleaningup.live. Links: • https://heartaerospace.com • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldy_NC-Doi4 Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 03:12 - Heart's Hybrid-Electric Plane 10:00 - The Range 15:00 - Jet Engines vs Battery Engines 19:30 - United's 100-Plane Order 23:00 - Kelly Johnson & The Skunk Works 26:30 - The Limits of Efficiency Improvements 30:30 - The Trump Effect 34:00 - Air vs High-Speed Rail 38:30 - What Fuel for Long Haul? 44:15 - The Test Flight 45:20 - Flight Shaming 48:30 - 6 Billion New Flyers 54:40 - Outro

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