@HasanMinhaj and Mehdi Hasan don’t just share a common brown name… actually, that may be all they have in common. One loves to debate, the other avoids it like the plague. One is obsessed (sorry, Mehdi) with Twitter, the other avoids it like the plague. And one knew months ago that Trump was going to win, and with record levels of Black and Brown support. What began as a friendly conversation quickly turned into a sparring session as Hasan pushed back on Mehdi’s debate tactics:
“You love to litigate,” Hasan told Mehdi. “Sometimes I want to hang out with a friend. I don’t want to hang out with a lawyer.”
They also talked about Joe Rogan and diagnosing what’s the matter with men these days, pseudo-intellectualism, Hasan’s latest Netflix special - including the perplexities and paradoxes of “Beigeistan”, and yes, the whole ‘Daily Show’ thing with Hasan and the New Yorker.
00:00 - Cold open
:50 - Intro
2:50 - Hasan interviews the mayor of London
4:30 - Trump’s attempted assassination
6:30 - Indian uncles and Brown dudes with chains
8:10 - Did your parents want you to be a doctor?
9:12 - Hasan predicted Trump’s win
12:42 - Why Brown folks voted for Trump
17:20 - The paradox of being Brown in the US
23:05 - Seeing justice in this dunya
25:28 - Artists for ceasefire
27:25 - Is Obama a war criminal?
29:30 - Why Hasan is interested in politicians
31:15 - The Joe Rogan “manosphere” and men who listen to podcasts
41:25 - The ‘New Yorker’ controversy
46:00 - What Hasan’s working on next
‘We’re Not Kidding’ releases new episodes twice a month, with Mehdi, Bassem and a cast of rotating guest co-hosts from the worlds of comedy, entertainment, and the media. Funny people talking about serious topics.
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Credits:
Hosted by Mehdi Hasan
Guest Host: Hasan Minhaj
Executive Producer: Kiran Alvi
Senior Producer and Editor: Frank Cappello
Music: Andy Clausen
Design: Alicia Tatone
Mix Engineer: Valentino Rivera
Title Animation: Ehsaan Mesghali