My guest is musician Matty Healy of The 1975 @the1975. He joins me to discuss internet culture and the strange aesthetics of our time.
We explore the inspirations behind his work, including the writing of cultural theorist Mark Fisher. Matty describes the "slow cancellation of the future" by comparing distinct styles of pop music across various decades. Fisher links these cultural moments to larger economic shifts that are often felt but rarely seen.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Don’t get red pilled
13:49 Context collapse
20:38 Hauntology
32:53 Ice-cream-ification
39:56 Slow cancellation of the future
57:32 Atomization & counterculture
1:06:46 Content vs. art
1:13:03 Old left vs. new left
1:21:18 Social media dynamics
1:35:33 Wealth vs. taste
1:41:31 Finding inspiration
1:49:32 Irony vs. sincerity
1:56:33 Media, culture and technology
2:00:39 Crisis of institutions
2:09:57 A theatrical performance of an intimate moment
2:21:34 The new album