Zelph on the Shelf is one of the most successful YouTube channels in history dedicated to exploring Mormonism in thoughtful and entertaining ways.
Five years ago I sat down with Samantha Shelley and Tanner Gilliland to discuss their loss of faith as "Mormon Millennials." That episode was extremely well-received at the time, and was highly influential in the journey of tens of thousands of Mormons, including Tyler Glenn (lead singer of Neon Trees).
Today's episode with Tanner and Samantha will be in two parts:
Part 1: Samantha and Tanner discuss the evolution and impact of Zelph on the Shelf over the past 5 years.
Part 2 (My favorite part): Samantha and Tanner discuss how they have healed and grown over the past 5 years in many of the domains most salient to transitioning Mormons, including: creativity, community, identity, mental health, spirituality, sexuality, finding meaning/purpose in their lives, and in thoughts about death and the afterlife.
Part 3: We end this interview by discussing Tanner and Samantha's perspective on the recent Mormon apologetic content released by FAIRMormon, featuring controversial apologist Kwaku El.
I found Samantha and Tanner to be incredibly thoughtful and wise, and am confident that you will thoroughly enjoy this episode.
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Timecodes:
00:00 Introduction & review of previous episodes
15:42 Tanner’s faith after the interview
22:47 Samantha about her personal journey after the interview
26:54 Moving to Salt Lake City
35:40 Becoming grounded after the faith crisis
38:19 Working together as friends?
54:00 Monetizing Zelph on the Shelf
58:40 Tanner on community
1:13:22 Samantha on community
1:18:07 Word of Wisdom & psychedelics - Samantha
1:20:25 Word of Wisdom & psychedelics - Tanner
1:31:40 Word of Wisdom & learning about sex
1:43:27 Mental health - Samantha
1:45:43 Mental health - Tanner
1:49:20 Some resources and practices
1:42:30 John sharing some personal experiences
1:54:51 Does food affect your mental health?
1:59:48 Spirituality, meaning and purpose - Samantha
2:06:47 Spirituality, meaning and purpose - Tanner
2:09:52 A big story vs a more relativistic point of view - Tanner
2:14:30 A big story vs a more relativistic point of view - Samantha
2:21:08 Death and the afterlife - Tanner
2:22:30 Death and the afterlife - Samantha
2:26:00 Circle back to the Zelph on the Shelf channel
2:33:02 Ex-Mormons feeling sad about time spent in LDS
2:39:19 Getting out of a high demand religion is hard
2:43:27 Apologetics & FAIRmormon
3:03:16 FAIRmormon underestimating Millennials
3:10:48 John’s conversation with Kwaku
3:14:40 FAIRmormon videos are not mormon, but polarizing
3:16:08 How can the church keep millenials?
3:21:22 Closing words by Tanner and Samantha
3:26:21 John's closing words
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