Fresh off their fourth NRL premiership, I had the privilege of sitting down with two of rugby league's biggest names, Nathan and Ivan Cleary, for a standout episode of Straight Talk. Nathan and Ivan walk us through their incredible journey to a historic four-peat, giving us a rare, behind-the-scenes look at everything—from the intense Grand Final celebrations to their responsibility as community role models.
We dive into the pressure that comes with elite coaching, how they lead with their own distinct styles, and the mental toughness it takes to stay at the top. Plus, Ivan opens up about his new book, offering deeper insights into his leadership philosophy and how he’s navigated the highs and lows of his career. This episode offers an exclusive look into the mindset of two legends who’ve made history in the game.
Purchase Ivan Cleary's new book here: https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9781460717936/not-everything-counts-but-everything-matters/
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Head of Production: Jonah Mclachlan
Head of Content: Samuel Morgan
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction/ Promo
00:57 Celebrating after a grand final & the Penrith community
07:01How does Ivan & Nathan deal with the stress
14:24 The influence of Jarome Luai, James Fisher-Harris & the Pacific Island/ Maori community on the club
19:48 How the Penrith Panthers have stayed on top 4 times in a row
25:55 How Penrith dominated the Melbourne Storm
29:22 Bellamy's v Cleary's coaching approaches
35:23 Do the Cleary's want anything to change?
36:19 How long does Ivan want to be coaching for?
38:21 The Cleary family & Nathan's love for the game
44:17 How Nathan's injury changed things & being a perfectionist
48:30 NRL Grand Final best performers
52:13 Nathan's & Ivan's inspirations
54:41 Relationship with Mary Fowler
57:34 Gus Gould's impact & tension
1:04:19 Drink West, business & post-footy
1:10:17 Nathan & Ivan's relationships & congratulations on raising great kids
1:13:28 Ivan's new book & final thoughts