Dr. Patrick McGrath and Michelle Massi bring 45 years of combined experience to this episode of the Get to Know OCD podcast, where they get into the state of OCD treatment today.
You’ll discover why failure can pave the way for progress, how feeding compulsions derails recovery, and why leaning into discomfort is key to reclaiming your life. Packed with practical wisdom and candid insights, this conversation is a must-hear for anyone affected by OCD — whether you’re struggling yourself or supporting a loved one.
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Show notes:
0:00 Intro
4:55 How failure led Michelle and Patrick to becoming therapists
7:37 Differences between residential, PHP and IOP treatments
12:17 Why someone might need higher level of care
15:35 Encouraging OCD patients to be accountable to treatment
19:23 OCD is never satisfied
20:38 Common questions Michelle gets
21:43 Family treatment can be complicated
28:50 ERP principles are life principles
36:05 What’s the “right” thing to do?
38:40 The role families play in OCD accommodation
41:53 The importance of evidence-based care
45:00 Learned helplessness
48:85 We’re allowed to be imperfect
49:48 Michelle’s future