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Oprah and Jacinda Ardern: A Different Kind of Power

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PRIME MINISTER is in theaters June 13, with special AMC preview screenings featuring a live Q&A with Rt. Honorable Dame Jacinda Ardern on June 8. https://www.primeministerdoc.com/

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The Right Honorable Dame Jacinda Ardern, former prime minister of New Zealand, joins The Oprah Podcast to discuss her new memoir, A Different Kind of Power which is available on June 3rd, 2025 . At age 37, Jacinda Ardern made history as the youngest female head of state in the entire world. Jacinda tells Oprah why, in an unprecedented moment for a world leader, she announced she would be using kindness as her guiding principle as prime minister of New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern also talks to Oprah about what it was like finding out she was pregnant on the eve of her election in 2017. Oprah asks the former prime minister about her international headline-making moments including taking her baby to the floor of the United Nations, leading New Zealand through the worst mass shooting in the country’s history and her quick yet widely criticized response to the COVID pandemic as well as her decision to resign. Jacinda Ardern also shares home video of personal and political moments of her time in office from the new documentary Prime Minister which premieres in theaters on June 13, 2025.

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00:00:00 - Welcome Dame Jacinda Ardern, author of A Different Kind of Power
00:01:08 - Jacinda Ardern’s documentary Prime Minister premieres June 13
00:03:36 - Why Jacinda chose the title A Different Kind of Power
00:05:06 - Jacinda had imposter syndrome growing up
00:06:37 - Why young people struggle with confidence
00:09:24 - How kindness became Jacinda’s leadership principle
00:13:58 - How being sensitive is a form of power
00:15:55 - The day Jacinda became PM — and found out she was pregnant
00:20:13 - Leading a country with a newborn
00:26:00 - The motherhood message Jacinda wants people to hear
00:27:49 - Jacinda’s husband, Clark, was the primary caregiver
00:28:59 - Responding to the 2019 Christchurch mass shooting
00:32:44 - Jacinda’s powerful example of empathetic leadership
00:35:13 - What “a different kind of power” really means
00:37:10 - Reforming New Zealand’s gun laws in just 10 days
00:41:05 - What it was like for Jacinda to lead during the pandemic
00:48:52 - Leading with solutions — not fear
00:50:43 - The mantra that helped Jacinda carry the country’s weight
00:52:20 - When Jacinda’s greatest weakness became her strength
00:53:20 - Leaders who Jacinda admires
00:56:42 - Why Jacinda decided to resign
01:01:50 - What Jacinda loves — and dislikes — about politics
01:06:48 - Why Jacinda founded Fellowship for Empathetic Leadership

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