I talk with Luke Burgis, an author and expert of René Girard. He's written a book called 'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life'. Today we discuss Girard, the problem and solution of sacrifice, Christianity, desire and rivalry, our modern concern for victims after the World Wars, the formation of Antichrist, cancel culture and more. Enjoy.
Luke Burgis' book, 'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life': https://www.amazon.com/Wanting-Power-Mimetic-Desire-Everyday/dp/1250262488/
Luke's Substack: https://read.lukeburgis.com/
Luke's website and newsletter: https://lukeburgis.com/
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Coming up next...
00:01:00 - Intro music
00:01:24 - Introduction
00:01:47 - Girard and desire
00:03:27 - The desire for transcendence
00:06:22 - Mimetic desire
00:09:12 - The Influencer: the desire vortex
00:11:01 - Love/hate rivalry
00:12:42 - Different kinds of transcendence
00:14:01 - Sports
00:15:13 - Collapsing hierarchy and difference
00:18:24 - Girard and sacrifice
00:23:03 - How to understand Christian sacrifice
00:30:13 - Cannibalism and suicide
00:33:48 - A familiar enough sacrifice
00:37:50 - The sacrifices of WW2
00:42:21 - Things hidden since the foundation
00:46:54 - The concern for victims
00:49:44 - Girard's Antichrist
00:51:13 - Honoring the scapegoat
00:58:25 - The personification of evil
01:00:58 - The scapegoat mechanism evolving
01:09:21 - Hypocrisy
01:10:08 - The miracle of breaking the cycle of scapegoating
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