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The Godmother of AI on what AGI means for humanity

Reid Hoffman 27,434 3 months ago
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How can we use AI to amplify human potential and build a better future? And what exactly does “AGI” actually mean? To kick off Possible’s fourth season, Reid and Aria sit down with world-renowned computer scientist Dr. Fei-Fei Li, whose work in artificial intelligence over the past several decades has earned her the nickname “the godmother of AI.” An entrepreneur and professor, Fei-Fei shares her journey from creating ImageNet—a massive dataset of labeled images that revolutionized computer vision two decades ago—to her current role as co-founder and CEO of the spatial intelligence startup World Labs. She breaks down why spatial intelligence—the ability to perceive and interact with the 3D world—is so crucial for AI's development and how it could lead to breakthroughs in fields like medicine, climate, and education. They also get into regulatory guardrails, governance, and what it will take to build a positive, human-centered AI future for all. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/ Topics: 0:00 - Hellos and intros 0:06 - The origins of ImageNet: addressing data in AI models 2:28 - From ImageNet to spatial intelligence and the vision for World Labs 6:25 - How spatial intelligence will transform the physical and digital worlds 8:14 - Differentiating LLMs from LWMs (large world models) 9:24 - Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and technology’s role 10:27 - The role of human agency in AI development 15:05 - Challenges and opportunities in AI innovation today 16:56 - Governance and guardrails: regulating AI applications 21:00 - Expanding access to AI through “AI for all” 23:00 - AI’s potential in revolutionizing healthcare delivery 26:10 - What does “AGI” (artificial general intelligence) really mean? 28:49 - The promise of agent AI and natural language interactions 30:30 - The value of human interaction: a lesson from Fei-Fei’s beloved teacher 31:13 - Rapid-fire questions Possible is an award-winning podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? Tune in for grounded and speculative takes on how technology—and, in particular, AI—is inspiring change and transforming the future. Hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, each episode features an interview with an ambitious builder or deep thinker on a topic, from art to geopolitics and from healthcare to education. These conversations also showcase another kind of guest: AI. Whether it's Inflection’s Pi, OpenAI’s ChatGPT or other AI tools, each episode will use AI to enhance and advance our discussion about what humanity could possibly get right if we leverage technology—and our collective effort—effectively.

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