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The Happiness Letter (Joseph's Proposition to Nancy Rigdon) | Ep. 1688 | LDS Discussions Ep. 28

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In part 5 of our 6-part series on polygamy within the LDS Discussion project, we discuss "The Happiness Letter," which was the letter Joseph Smith wrote to Nancy Rigdon to try to convince her to become one of his plural wives. Special Guest: @NEMOTHEMORMON http://youtube.com/nemothemormon LDS Discussion Essay on the Happiness Letter: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/happiness LDS Discussions Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p7gAxwsM_k&list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:06:50 What is Joseph Smith’s “Happiness Letter” 00:11:05 Joseph Smith recruits Nancy Marinda Hyde 00:13:40 Joseph Gives this Revelation after Sending Orson on a Mission 00:27:30 Joseph clears out the printing office for private meetings 00:32:50 Joseph’s secret meeting with nancy is confirmed by Orson 00:37:20 John C. Bennett, “Spiritual Wifery,” and the Nancy Rigdon Proposal 00:44:50 Women testified that men claimed Joseph taught spiritual wifery 00:48:50 John C. Bennett on what leads to the Happiness Letter 00:57:50 Joseph Smith’s 1841 teaching of “No sin if no accuser” 01:05:50 Nancy Rigdon was told to burnt the letter after reading 01:08:50 Church leaders have cited the Happiness Letter 01:16:00 A reading of the “Happiness Letter” 01:22:05 Breaking down the happiness letter 01:24:15 Joseph Smith turns morality upside down on Nancy Rigdon 01:30:50 Hank Smith and Kate Holbrook discuss this with D&C 132 01:38:00 This is a tactic used by other religious leaders 01:40:00 Reading this letter in the context it was written 01:43:30 Using the language of revelation to convince women to say “Yes.” 01:46:50 Joseph Smith’s use of inclusive language 01:49:30 The Happiness Letter makes clear it’s about polygamy 01:57:50 Joseph Smith unintentionally conceded his is his desire 02:00:00 The Happiness Letter alternates promises and threats 02:01:50 Joseph Smith compares an apple to a polygamous marriage 02:04:50 Joseph Smith then says marrying Joseph will make Nancy happy 02:10:00 Either Joseph is lying or the God of Mormonism is wrong 02:17:40 Threatening to take away blessings already received 02:20:40 Using urgency to circumvent Nancy’s moral compass 02:25:10 God is more liberal (and awful) than we are ready to believe 02:27:45 The God of Mormonism is certainly more inconsistent than we are ready to believe 02:30:20 Joseph promises great blessings for obeying Joseph…through God 02:32:00 Fallout from Nancy releasing the Happiness Letter 02:43:30 Joseph Smith calls off the attacks following Sidney’s letter 02:45:20 Now listen to church leader cite the Happiness Letter again 02:48:00 Conclusion on the Happiness Letter Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/happiness-letter-lds-disc/ LDS Discussions 6-part Polygamy Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqp9bdHd3io&list=PLxq5opj6GqOCtRHWmdfD5-6Eq18VYBrcE LDS Discussions Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p7gAxwsM_k&list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Amazon Smile: Be sure to select “Mormon Stories” website: https://smile.amazon.com app: https://amz.run/5r2M LDS Discussions Platforms: Website & Essays: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Anchor: https://anchor.fm/lds-discussions Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2UkFsqYDl5SHiRX2dvA9MO YouTube Playlist on Mormon Stories Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced LDS Discussions on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/ldsdiscussions Facebook: facebook.com/ldsdiscussion Insta: instagram.com/ldsdiscussions Contact Mormon Stories: [email protected] PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Mormon Stories on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF

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