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The Market Illusion: Mike Green on Inflation, Geopolitics and the Hidden Recession

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In this episode of Excess Returns, Justin and Matt welcome back investment strategist Mike Green for an in-depth conversation about the current state of markets, economic trends, and geopolitical developments. Mike shares his unique perspective on several key topics: Why traditional economic indicators like unemployment claims no longer accurately reflect economic reality due to the rise of the gig economy How the Fed's interest rate hikes have counterintuitively benefited wealthy individuals through increased interest income The strategic reasoning behind Trump administration policies, particularly regarding China, Russia, and global trade An analysis of market dynamics, including the mechanical nature of passive investing and its impact on price movements Insights on inflation measurement challenges and the role of seasonal adjustments in recent data The conversation also explores how current political and economic conditions mirror historical patterns, with Mike drawing thought-provoking parallels to past societal transformations. He explains why the S&P 500's strong performance masks weakness in other market segments and offers his perspective on what investors should consider in today's environment. Whether you're interested in markets, economics, or the intersection of politics and investing, this episode provides valuable insights from one of today's most original financial thinkers. 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:10 How interest payments power spending: 70 cents of every dollar gets spent 00:10:07 Why unemployment data is broken: The gig economy effect 00:16:58 Real interest rates are too high: Evidence in housing and auto sectors 00:23:55 The Northwest Passage: China strategy and geopolitical chess 00:31:04 The hidden bear market: Most stocks aren't performing like the S&P 500 00:38:52 Trump's republic: The Schrödinger's cat analogy 00:46:08 Markets as mechanical creatures: The passive investing effect 00:54:18 Closing thoughts: We are not passive participants in economic cycles

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